Comments on: The AMD “Aldebaran” GPU That Won Exascale https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/11/09/the-aldebaran-amd-gpu-that-won-exascale/ In-depth coverage of high-end computing at large enterprises, supercomputing centers, hyperscale data centers, and public clouds. Sun, 29 May 2022 18:23:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/11/09/the-aldebaran-amd-gpu-that-won-exascale/#comment-172467 Sat, 11 Dec 2021 13:29:42 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139588#comment-172467 In reply to emerth.

It does seem like an odd choice, particularly when AMD is so proud of the fact that with the Epycs, all the features are on all the time on all the SKUs–it’s just what cores work and clock speeds that give the variation in the stack.

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By: emerth https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/11/09/the-aldebaran-amd-gpu-that-won-exascale/#comment-172460 Sat, 11 Dec 2021 09:24:58 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139588#comment-172460 Hi Timothy – memory coherence disabled on all but the top SKU – is that a hard spec from AMD?

Seems a shame to disable it like that. I will probably never buy an AOM system. I might buy the MI210 PCIe card version if it had coherent memory between the two dies. If AMD thinks this is some kind of upsell it is mistaken.

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By: Mark Hahn https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/11/09/the-aldebaran-amd-gpu-that-won-exascale/#comment-171157 Tue, 16 Nov 2021 22:25:54 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139588#comment-171157 I’d love to hear more about the coherent CPU-CPU interface. Does AMD ever still talk about HSI, or any “big picture” work along those lines? The software environment would benefit from an architecture that managed to provide uniform, coherent addressing between persistent memory, RAM, CPU, and GPU…

(Disaggregated systems are not really the same topic, since disagg people are willing to blow up latency so they can have a rack-scale “polyamorous” system)

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By: Fyzhkar Raynaldy https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/11/09/the-aldebaran-amd-gpu-that-won-exascale/#comment-171079 Tue, 16 Nov 2021 05:15:07 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139588#comment-171079 I wonder why Frontier used the regular MI250 instead of the MI250X?

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By: katanarama https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/11/09/the-aldebaran-amd-gpu-that-won-exascale/#comment-171044 Mon, 15 Nov 2021 22:58:04 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139588#comment-171044 In reply to EC.

The “software” not being mentioned is CUDA. This is going to be AMD’s Xeon Phi moment.

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/11/09/the-aldebaran-amd-gpu-that-won-exascale/#comment-171012 Mon, 15 Nov 2021 15:02:11 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139588#comment-171012 In reply to Dave Jeffers.

Definitely not, since they forked the lines into RDNA and CDNA engines, and this is a CDNA engine. They could have many similarities, obviously. But you need a different balance of stuff, and lots of ray tracing, for gaming.

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By: Dave Jeffers https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/11/09/the-aldebaran-amd-gpu-that-won-exascale/#comment-171006 Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:27:01 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139588#comment-171006 Will AMD be using the same GCD in the Radeon version?

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By: Current Resident https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/11/09/the-aldebaran-amd-gpu-that-won-exascale/#comment-170604 Thu, 11 Nov 2021 19:42:31 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139588#comment-170604 “Eventually, all GPUs will do their floating processing in matrix math units, and many CPUs will, too, dropping vector units when all the code is ported some generations hence.”. No; not all floating point operations benefit from the matrix units. Matrix-matrix multiplications do, and batched matrix-vector operations too, but that’s about it.

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By: EC https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/11/09/the-aldebaran-amd-gpu-that-won-exascale/#comment-170396 Wed, 10 Nov 2021 14:55:37 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139588#comment-170396 As always appreciate TPM’s perspective and deep dive on hardware architecture. Of note, the word *software* only appears once. There is an allegory in there somewhere…

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By: Dan Skel https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/11/09/the-aldebaran-amd-gpu-that-won-exascale/#comment-170342 Wed, 10 Nov 2021 03:54:07 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139588#comment-170342 Correction: “Instinct MI200 GPU accelerator from Nvidia” should read “from AMD”.

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