Comments on: The On-Premises Empire Strikes Back At AWS

By: Kerry Main

Kerry Main — Tue, 14 Feb 2023 15:29:35 +0000

Public Cloud is just another marketing term for outsourcing i.e. giving part or all of your IT environment to a vendor for a fixed and/or variable cost per month based on actual usage. Like outsourcing, there are pro’s and con’s. More often than not, it is a company financial decision to shift CAPEX $’s to OPEX $’s. However, one needs to remember that the outsourcing model is based on low cost of entry, with increasing costs based on inevitable change requests and/or additional customization required to address rapidly changing business requirements. Big push in large enterprises today is to leave small amount on Public Cloud, but shift the big, critical stuff to on-prem control using collocation vendor provided DC’s. Best of both worlds. Having stated this, on-prem solutions do require a new service model that is competitive with some aspects of public cloud. As example – adopting COD (capacity on demand) solutions that have been around for decades.

By: John Rothgeb

John Rothgeb — Sat, 11 Feb 2023 21:52:24 +0000

Depends on what clouds you are talking about. IaaS, PaaS, SaaS. SaaS can be considerably cheaper for businesses, and better, though they do have to do due diligence on and watch egregious compute, data, storage and transfer charges. That would be true with on premise too, but with cloud customers tend to forget until a big bill hits.

By: Mike S

Mike S — Fri, 10 Feb 2023 02:33:13 +0000

In reply to Frank Clank. I guess you have never run modernized workloads on the cloud.

By: Frank Clank

Frank Clank — Thu, 09 Feb 2023 13:59:34 +0000

In reply to Narayanan Potti. Wow, we just found the dumbest comment on the internet today. Are you that naive that you seriously don’t think that those same concepts could be adopted on premise, or are you just AWS certified, like the old CCNA boys club of last century?

By: Ivan

Ivan — Thu, 09 Feb 2023 06:41:57 +0000

In reply to Narayanan Potti.

That argument doesn’t really stand. Many of the cloud provider services are not really faster then the on-premises equivalents one good system engineer would configure. And there are alternatives for all services out there, in one shape or the other.

What the real advantage of any cloud provider is, is to reduce the cost of operating infrastructure and those services. So in order to have a multi-az like setup of Elasticache/Redis one would need to:
– configure 2 servers in 2 distinct datacenters
– have replication in between them
– configure proper backups
– configure proper monitoring
– configure proper failover on the LB level
– have those LBs in the first place
– etc.

With AWS, that is just a few clicks. So in order to provision the whole thing there from scratch, you need like 30 minutes, while on-premises, assuming you don’t have many pieces of the tech stack solved yet, days.

This is the valuable difference, especially when you want to cut time-to-market. But when you have large internal IT, of really competent people, things get automated, streamlined, the difference starts to disappear. This is why large companies are sometimes choosing to go back on-premises, because inflated per-hour price (even with huge discounts and contracts in place) is outweighing the benefits or the convenience services provide.

Even if the mentioned performance difference was true, microsecond difference between company A and its competitor is negligible.

All that being said, each company has its own set of reasons why would they choose one way or the other, and that is fine. What I hope to see though is fair amount of the competition in the space, because that is good for all of us.

By: TechYogJosh

TechYogJosh — Wed, 08 Feb 2023 12:18:38 +0000

It seems this repatriation is in the heads of a few people. Cloud vendors continue to grow strongly and the media takes some examples of clients moving work to DC and portray it as repatriation. May be its a stop gap. They want to bring the workload in, modernize it and then migrate to cloud again. The interesting aspect is cloud vendors are so big and successful they dont really care for anyone and therefore, everyone, even this portal, needs to be in good books of dying on-premise vendors which are gleefully mentioned in this article. Just because these dinosaurs have offerings doesnt mean clients should buy. We portray cloud vendors as screwing customers, have we forgotten IBM, HPE, Oracle, DELL? Are cloud vendors worse than these? I cant believe that.

By: Jim peterson

Jim peterson — Wed, 08 Feb 2023 00:56:00 +0000

Mid 22 was a bad time for all….come on man

By: Mark Underwood

Mark Underwood — Tue, 07 Feb 2023 21:01:19 +0000

Workload characterization will become a key enabler, backed by policy & cost ontologies. Optimizing for cost on alternate platforms is one among many reasons for cloud native ideology. “Cloud” may become a legacy denotation. Metadata management will return as a cross-functional enterprise discipline. The major cloud providers may have to reconsider their preference for service automation over human-enabled services. If so, recent layoffs of trained personnel will prove to have been a strategic error of significant proportions.

By: Observer Pattern

Observer Pattern — Tue, 07 Feb 2023 20:08:17 +0000

The cloud is vastly overcomplicated and more expensive for the majority of businesses. Cloud vendors such as AWS and Microsoft have been screwing customers for years with their excessive compute, storage and transfer costs. Clouds, like EVs, should be cheaper – not more expensive. The economies of scale of these providers should make their services cheaper than buying and managing your own hardware. Servers are good for at least 5 years nowadays and running on-prem can be more cost effective for most businesses. Cloud vendors need to drastically simplify cloud utilization by eliminating the nickel and diming. The article is right that businesses should only use the least common denominator features that can be easily migrated among vendors. Avoid lock-in to keep your freedom to choose!

By: S callen

S callen — Tue, 07 Feb 2023 18:23:50 +0000

What about blackbird