Comments on: AMD’s Instinct GPU Business Is Coiled To Spring https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/11/01/amds-instinct-gpu-business-is-coiled-to-spring/ In-depth coverage of high-end computing at large enterprises, supercomputing centers, hyperscale data centers, and public clouds. Mon, 13 Nov 2023 23:05:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/11/01/amds-instinct-gpu-business-is-coiled-to-spring/#comment-215960 Tue, 07 Nov 2023 00:14:32 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143181#comment-215960 In reply to Thanny.

I am not talking about the FirePro S9000, which was — how shall I say it? — not very good and was not a real Instinct card. The first CUDA-enabled GPUs were also not really datacenter-class products, either. I see your point, but I suspect you can see mine.

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By: Thanny https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/11/01/amds-instinct-gpu-business-is-coiled-to-spring/#comment-215951 Mon, 06 Nov 2023 17:39:49 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143181#comment-215951 “The long journey began with the “Graphics Core Next” architecture that debuted with the “Vega 10” Radeon and Radeon Instinct MI25 GPUs that were coming out in the summer of 2018…”

This is wrong. Vega was the last GCN architecture, not the first. The first was Tahiti, which released at the end of 2011. The top-end consumer GPU using it was the 7970. The server GPU based on Tahiti, released in mid-2012, was the FirePro S9000.

After the Vega-based Instinct cards, AMD evolved GCN into CDNA, which is the architecture used in all the Instinct cards from the MI100 onwards.

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By: Hubert https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/11/01/amds-instinct-gpu-business-is-coiled-to-spring/#comment-215896 Sat, 04 Nov 2023 22:58:10 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143181#comment-215896 In reply to Paul Berry.

Can’t wait to hear that buccaneer’s cannon fire!

I’ll add that, in this, both Motley Fool and Tom’s Hardware get points off for publishing an inaccurate automated transcription of AMD’s 10/31/23 earnings call that so mis-stated the timeline of MI300A’s shipments to El Capitan! Humans (hopefully knowledgeable ones) still got to double-check those error-prone automated gizmos (or maybe just stick to reading the more accurate and trustworthy TNP).

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By: Paul Berry https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/11/01/amds-instinct-gpu-business-is-coiled-to-spring/#comment-215856 Fri, 03 Nov 2023 13:11:37 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143181#comment-215856 In reply to Hubert.

I’m sure AMD is keeping their powder dry to make a big splash at SC23.

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By: Sølve Folkestad Dahl https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/11/01/amds-instinct-gpu-business-is-coiled-to-spring/#comment-215852 Fri, 03 Nov 2023 09:15:02 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143181#comment-215852 Timothy, gaming includes consoles. Embedded is Xilinx + embedded-style Epycs.

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/11/01/amds-instinct-gpu-business-is-coiled-to-spring/#comment-215835 Thu, 02 Nov 2023 19:05:02 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143181#comment-215835 In reply to tufttugger.

Right. I keep thinking of the old Semi-Custom and Embedded division pre-Xilinx.

As for GAAP versus non-GAAP. I think they are equally disingenuous. You can’t call an underlying business more profitable if the overlying business is a huge cost, or has to take a writeoff, or whatever shenanigans (or benefits) happen from time to time. The way I see it, only real net income counts. Because that is the money you can spend,

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By: tufttugger https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/11/01/amds-instinct-gpu-business-is-coiled-to-spring/#comment-215833 Thu, 02 Nov 2023 17:28:58 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143181#comment-215833 A couple notes and suggestions. Note that the Gaming segment has Consoles (they aren’t in Embedded which is almost 100% Xilinx). Console sales have dipped, but gaming dGPUs are still selling and at better margins, hence the increase in profit margin% despite drop in revenue in the segment.

It would probably also be better to use free cash flow or non-GAAP profits in the first chart, which for AMD better highlights their true profitability. Using GAAP numbers is skewed by funny accounting gimmicks (see that big spike in Q4 2020, AMD claimed old tax losses. And the near zero profits recently is AMD writing off fake losses and intangibles when they bought Xilinx with shares, not cash).

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/11/01/amds-instinct-gpu-business-is-coiled-to-spring/#comment-215830 Thu, 02 Nov 2023 13:45:44 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143181#comment-215830 In reply to Kurt Lust.

Agreed. But it is a 20 percent tweak in features on Arcturus to get to Aldebaran, not a complete from scratch redo.

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/11/01/amds-instinct-gpu-business-is-coiled-to-spring/#comment-215829 Thu, 02 Nov 2023 13:44:28 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143181#comment-215829 In reply to geekinasuit.

No. $50 million incremental to the $400 million in Q1 2024. Still badly written by me, and my model says $400 Q1, $450 Q2, $550 Q3, $600 Q4.

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By: John S https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/11/01/amds-instinct-gpu-business-is-coiled-to-spring/#comment-215824 Thu, 02 Nov 2023 12:29:50 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143181#comment-215824 I could have been more precise in my report, and I can understand completely the “kids at home” issues, though mine are now old enough to drive themselves places.

But overall, I love your work here, it’s really interesting and a good dive into what’s happening in the base layers of systems and hardware and how that will affect IT pros. And glimpses of where the world might be going. Personally I think the AI stuff is way over hyped, like Bitcoin and all that stuff.

P.s. Akismet seems to think this comment is a duplicate of my original one. Sigh….

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