Comments on: Intel Takes The Big Restructuring Hits As It Looks Ahead https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/11/01/intel-takes-the-big-restructuring-hits-as-it-looks-ahead/ In-depth coverage of high-end computing at large enterprises, supercomputing centers, hyperscale data centers, and public clouds. Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:26:20 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Michael Alan Bruzzone https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/11/01/intel-takes-the-big-restructuring-hits-as-it-looks-ahead/#comment-239457 Fri, 08 Nov 2024 17:47:24 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144936#comment-239457 Fron Camp Marketing Intel q3 channel supply data on INTC financial reconciliation supplied total on a net basis,

Xeon Sierra Forrest and Granite Rapids = 1,119,000 units
NEX = 11,151,377 the dice bank is filled
Gaudi 3 = 32,000 courtesy of TPM
Core Arrow desktop = 4,739,608 and another 14,327,127 q4 credit
Core Raptor desktop warranty = 20,301,167
Core Meteor and Raptor embedded = 5,031,377
Core Lunar mobile = 31,206,224 good until Panther
Total = 78,653,881 units

Summary

Intel Stated CPU Division Revenue = $12.1 B / 78,653,881 units = $153.84
Intel Stated CPU Operating Cost = $8.8 B / units = $111.88
Intel States CPU Operating Income $6 B / units = $76.28 that is Price ‘A1’

CPU Divisions $12,100,000,000 revenue / units = $153.845 per unit
CPU described as Operating Cost = $111.88 per unit
CPU Gross is actually fixed (marginal) cost of production = $41.96
CPU R&D contribution = $51.48
CPU MGA contribution = $17.48
CPU NET revenue less costs = $1 same as q4 2023

CPU PE&C contribution = $165.67
CPU Restructure contribution = $71.47
CPU Tax accrual contribution = $100
CPU NET LOSS = ($337) per unit that is $5,622,000,000 restructuring

Fixed cost of production $41.96
R&D as fixed cost $51.48
MG&A as variable cost = $17.58
Total $111.02

Less restructuring $71.47 is Price ‘A2’
Less fixed cost of Production $41.96
Equals variable cost $39.54

The full report including q3 x86 production and component channel share is here top of comment string here,

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4731858-intel-corporation-intc-q3-2024-earnings-call-transcript

Mike Bruzzone, Camp Marketing

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/11/01/intel-takes-the-big-restructuring-hits-as-it-looks-ahead/#comment-239172 Mon, 04 Nov 2024 15:49:50 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144936#comment-239172 In reply to Paul Berry.

Good questions. I think antitrust bodies have the power to prevent mergers and acquisitions, but I don’t think any government has any power to do any busting up except inside its sovereign domain. I am counting Europe as a domain in this regard, given the EU.

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By: Paul Berry https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/11/01/intel-takes-the-big-restructuring-hits-as-it-looks-ahead/#comment-239170 Mon, 04 Nov 2024 15:27:02 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144936#comment-239170 In reply to Timothy Prickett Morgan.

This is the problem, right? TSMC is essentially a monopoly at this point. It’s also in a politically dangerous location, but even without that it’s a monopoly. If Intel fails, does the department of justice try to split up tsmc? It’s not a US corporation. How do antitrust laws work when none of the remaining vendors are US based?

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/11/01/intel-takes-the-big-restructuring-hits-as-it-looks-ahead/#comment-239168 Mon, 04 Nov 2024 15:17:41 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144936#comment-239168 In reply to Hubert.

Agreed. We need a second, good foundry. This is dangerous. Of course, having a second good foundry is ALSO dangerous.

Which begs the question: Is the world always dangerous? HA! It seems to be built into the fabric of spacetime. . . . probably on purpose.

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By: Hubert https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/11/01/intel-takes-the-big-restructuring-hits-as-it-looks-ahead/#comment-239104 Sun, 03 Nov 2024 17:24:30 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144936#comment-239104 In reply to Carl Schumacher.

It’s probably okay (in my mind, not unusual) as the DJIA is meant to depict overall market performance in the US based on just 30 stocks, and so they add and remove stocks from companies in similar activity categories every year (to keep just 30). Replacing Intel (underperforming) with Nvidia (overperforming) is going to give DJIA a bit of an “optimistic boost” though, that may not make it a more accurate representation of real industrial activity (imho).

What Intel is doing with (essentially) “reshoring” of advanced chip production fab capacity is very expensive, but was deemed strategically essential in view of the supply chain disruptions that arose from COVID. I expect that, through this investment, short-term profit loss will be replaced by steady gains in the medium and long-term, once fabs are operating at capacity (it just takes a bit longer than what some financial analysts are used to).

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By: Eric Olson https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/11/01/intel-takes-the-big-restructuring-hits-as-it-looks-ahead/#comment-239039 Sun, 03 Nov 2024 02:58:56 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144936#comment-239039 IBM also had a 7nm fabrication problem when Global Foundries spent their money on something else and unexpectedly abandoned advanced process nodes. For that Power 10 ended up years late manufactured by Samsung. At least Intel did not turn into a manufacturer of boutique hardware designed only for running legacy code.

While Intel is trying to regain market share, my opinion is they sold off too many innovative assets and discontinued others. I think recovery will be difficult because the biggest problem is not bad CPUs but disruption by the AI industry’s need for faster storage, faster networking and faster GPU accelerators.

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By: Carl Schumacher https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/11/01/intel-takes-the-big-restructuring-hits-as-it-looks-ahead/#comment-238961 Sat, 02 Nov 2024 00:51:43 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144936#comment-238961 “Nvidia to Replace Intel in Dow Jones Industrial Average” per WSJ 2024 Nov 1st…Ouch!

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By: Paul Berry https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/11/01/intel-takes-the-big-restructuring-hits-as-it-looks-ahead/#comment-238924 Fri, 01 Nov 2024 15:07:55 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144936#comment-238924 Intel is in a bad place compared to years past. However, it still sells about half the datacenter CPUs and client CPUs on the planet. Even in this diminished form, it still has staggeringly ubiquitous products, some of which sell for more than ten thousand dollars apiece. It’s kind of astonishing they can’t make money.

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By: Calamity Jim https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/11/01/intel-takes-the-big-restructuring-hits-as-it-looks-ahead/#comment-238918 Fri, 01 Nov 2024 14:24:04 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144936#comment-238918 Great to see that “things have stopped getting worse, more or less” at Intel! It’s a tough rodeo to be in and if they can stem some of the bruising and limb breaking then so much the better.

Now that they have the HPCG bullriding suplex champion Granite Rapids in the field (and Diamond as a presumably straightforward PCIe6.0/CXL 3.0 successor), it’s high noon indeed for a focus on Falcon Shores, and related media PR, tech info, details, specs, size of saddlebags, etc … The last plot in Wednesday’s AMD Instinct story says it all: a 30.4x revenue increase in 1 year! That’s the kind of silver dollar that could really help pay for foundry bringup at advanced nodes IMHO.

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